I acquired a Mac a couple of days ago, start set up softwares and stuff and I just realized that HEM is not supported on Mac. Re: Hold'em Manager/Poker Tracker for Mac? This has been an interesting discussion to follow. I don't want to seem like I'm doing a hard sell for Poker Copilot. Hold'em Manager 2 Poker Software. The art + science of winning poker. Know your opponent, review / analyze your results and maximize your profit.
Interested in Tournaments and SNG converter PS: ask a question each new table, does the converter rest the HUD data or I need to reset from HM2/PT4 by myself? THank you in advance. If I'm understanding your question correctly, each new table that is added, a new unique ID is attached to each player / seat number. So the data is specific to that player that you're playing against on that table. If a player leaves, and a new player sits, then a new unique ID is created and new stats begin to get generated for that player / seat number. This way when you review your in your database, you'll also be able to see what kind of player you were facing as well.
Not to mention that in real time this is important as well. Yeah, tournament support isn't too far behind. It's just a little trickier than cash games for several reasons. I want to add since I'm getting a lot of e-mails and PM's about this: If you have table mods, the HUD will not work as well.
Also, you need to turn off game play and winning hand animations in your bovada settings window. If you do this, it will work like a charm.
We've done over 5 months of testing with 10 beta testers. Some of the testers are from this forum too. But any ways, I also have been using it and love it. It will take a couple of minutes to get everything setup like you want, but once you do you'll be happy. I want to add since I'm getting a lot of e-mails and PM's about this: If you have table mods, the HUD will not work as well. Also, you need to turn off game play and winning hand animations in your bovada settings window.
If you do this, it will work like a charm. We've done over 5 months of testing with 10 beta testers.
Some of the testers are from this forum too. But any ways, I also have been using it and love it. It will take a couple of minutes to get everything setup like you want, but once you do you'll be happy. Just ask, are u able to provide a sample video, and uploaded to Youtube as demo? Looks pretty complicated to use this tools. Thank you in advance.
In the software itself, there's a tutorial on how to use it. There's either 3-4 steps to setup depending on which database you use. Most everything is automated. It's really not hard. It's not any more difficult than setting up and running HM or PT. Once you set it up which might take 1 minute to do, you just click catch hands and load your database from that point on. If you can play poker, you can figure it out, but if you have specific questions or get stuck on something, just ask and I'm more than happy to help.
A couple of areas of interest for me; I assume that using this for ZONE games will not happen. With an ever changing player pool any data other than our own would be useless? Also, in the case where there is a waiting list, and the instant a player leaves he is replaced, with a new player with the same player number. Does this software catch the change?
Assume I am asking about a nearly instantaneous change of the player behind the number. Yes, for zone games it's useless since there's no player names.
Even if we could catch all the data, it's not helpful unless you can track a player (like on rush for example). A random player ID is generated for every player so that when you review stats you can view the play against that kind of opponent and know how they played against you. When a player leaves and a new player sits, the software detects this and creates a new player ID. Judging by my log file it's having problems if I resize the window, throwing out index out of bounds of array errors. Strange, since I was using it resized earlier without a hitch. It seems to be ok using the default Bovada window size now.
Since I'm assuming the card catcher is using some sort of OCR, how finicky do I have to be? Can I change background colors using the default Bovada client (not using any mods)? Minor quibble, but the default red starts to melt my eyeballs after awhile. Also, do I have to be careful in my placement of the HUD over certain areas of the window? Re-sizing shouldn't be an issue, but we have had a couple of problems in the last version. But in general it should not be an issue, along with background colors for the tables, and 4 color decks. The only main issue comes up with mods, and those can be a problem.
Maybe it shouldn't, but it's definitely causing issues on my end. Duplicate sweeper for mac. Catcher works great if I keep Bovada window default, but when I resize it, I get this error in BCC.log multiple times per second (I'm literally watching the log file size grow by about 5kb per second when resized and catcher is on): System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
At BovadaHHGenerator.BoardModel.UY2fydd3FH at BovadaHHGenerator.BoardModel.ctor(Bitmap bmp, Int32 tableType, GameType gameType, String path, String stake, Size size, String tableTitle, StacksModel stacks, BetsModel bets, MainPotModel mainPot, TotalPotModel totalPot, SidePotModel sidePot, CurrentHandModel currentHand, CommunityCardsModel communityCards, PlayersCardsModel playerCards, PlayersCaptionModel playerCaptions, HeroSeatNumberModel heroSeatNumber, IntPtr handle) at BovadaHHGenerator.Game.hUsmT0XbrL(IntPtr ). I just downloaded the trial and I am getting a lot of import errors in pt4. Out of 35 hands I have 11 errors so far. The type of errors I'm getting the most are: Error:: Invalid pot size for hand # Error: PokerStars: P3665632JB invalid raise (Hand #) (Hand #) I also got this once: Error: PokerStars: Unable to import hand (#).
Reason: Unable to execute query: COPY cashhandplayerstatistics FROM STDIN;; Reason: Fatal Error (ERROR: invalid input syntax for type numeric: '-1.#J' CONTEXT: COPY cashhandplayerstatistics, line 1, column valfraisemadepct: '-1.#J' ).
TheHulk7, well i had pretty the same 'torment of choice' a while ago like you have now. I decided to get a good HUD and didn't know which one to choose. So i started compare those both elephants on a market.
And i have realized quickly they are both pretty similar. However i should say PokerTracker 4 seems to be working slightly faster (especially on laptops or older PCs), cause it's interface more simplified in comparison to 'better looking' HM2. Also PT4 has already it's Notes writer & LeakTracker already included into original software. At HM2 both you have to buy additionally.
So those were the points for me to stay on PT4 instead of HM2. But i think it's really a matter of taste. They are both good and have same functions. Some professionals use HM2 another use PT4. Can't say that one software is better or easier to use than another. Each HUD needs a lil bit time to get used to and learn how to use it proper.
It's normal thing to be a bit overwhelmed at the beginning of using. There are some youtube videos that can show you in details how to use it: Btw, both softwares has it's own video instructions of different options integrated into software. (In PokerTracker 4 you just need to click on a green button with '?' To starts help video.) Also i recommend you to watch this video, to get basics about what HUD is about and which stats means what: If you have any questions about using PokerTracker 4, don't hesitate to ask it right here. Yeap alienat3d went through the topic pretty thoroughly!I would like to point out some points: -You can use Jivaro if you want a simple HUD but you can't review your session after the game.
You have to pay it every month. Or you can make a yearly subscription with a discount ofc. I have tried it and it was just fine! - HM2 and PT4 are two professional tools if you are serious in your game, don't panic with the setup.After the first minutes you get used to it,it's pretty easy and highly customizable! Both have micro -low limits edition which is cheaper and the full version with unlimited buy-ins supported!You can find in their sites the informations you need.Also try them out both if you want to make that investment! Thanks a lot guys! I completely agree with you.
I use Jivaro now and as you said, it's very simple HUD with excellent graphics and very easy to use, and yeah, I can't review session after the game and it works only on PokerStars.So, I understand that it is not a pro tool like as pt4 / hm2 but it offers an excellent introduction into how HUD actually works, I'm sure, for beginners like me this is very important thing, once you realize how HUD works, you can use any of them. When I started the poker tracker for the first time I had a lot of problems to manage with all these numbers, but now I am sure it would be much easier. So, if anyone looking for the first HUD, try Jivaro, and then you can easily move onto pt 4 or hm2. One more thing, if you do not play multi tables, you no need any tracker. It is enough to look closely at a few and you will have the necessary information.
Of course, this is just my experience in a very short time. Thanks a lot guys! I completely agree with you. I use Jivaro now and as you said, it's very simple HUD with excellent graphics and very easy to use, and yeah, I can't review session after the game and it works only on PokerStars.So, I understand that it is not a pro tool like as pt4 / hm2 but it offers an excellent introduction into how HUD actually works, I'm sure, for beginners like me this is very important thing, once you realize how HUD works, you can use any of them. When I started the poker tracker for the first time I had a lot of problems to manage with all these numbers, but now I am sure it would be much easier. So, if anyone looking for the first HUD, try Jivaro, and then you can easily move onto pt 4 or hm2.
One more thing, if you do not play multi tables, you no need any tracker. It is enough to look closely at a few hands and you will have the necessary information.
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Of course, this is just my experience in a very short time. Glad we helped you man, I agree with you, if you one tabling it's ok to play without a HUD. If are able to invest some money and time in you online experience then you have to go one step further for a more powerful software! Best of luck. Im long time PT4 user and recently approved an an official pokertracker 4 premium addon developer so my comment might sound a bit biass but i believe PT4 is better than HM2. The thing is PT4 learning curve is a lot more steaped in comparison to HM2 where the user interface is a lot more user friendly as everything is also preconfigured. PT4 offers a lot more customazations allowing you to create custom stats, HUD profiles and reports as you see fit.
This might be a bit overwhelming for someone new to these programs but once you pass through that initial learning phase in PT4 you will realize you can get a lot more value out of it than with HM2. HM2 is heavily mostly use by cash gamers giving they can add NoteCaddy to it as this is an exclusively HM2 addon software, but giving the state of the industries more and more sites are lauching new updated to their TOS banning these type of softwares. PT4 is more heavily use by mid and high SNG and MTTs players, specially those playing STT like 6max hypers, HUSNGs and now Spin&Go because as stated before PT4 allow them to customize their HUD and play with an unique HUD that best suits their needs and expectations.
I feel so strongly PT4 is better than HM2 that HM3 have been on beta testing for over a year now and most of their user interfaces are just like PT4, especially the HUD Editor tab. PT4 offers a lot more customazations allowing you to create custom stats, HUD profiles and reports as you see fit. This might be a bit overwhelming for someone new to these programs but once you pass through that initial learning phase in PT4 you will realize you can get a lot more value out of it than with HM2. You can create your own reports and hud profiles in HEM (not sure about custom stats but 95% of people will never need to anyway) and if you did need to create custom stats in HEM it can definitely be done by creating a notecaddy custom stat and then adding that to your hud. So you can't get anymore value out of it because you can do the same in both. I feel so strongly PT4 is better than HM2 that HM3 have been on beta testing for over a year now and most of their user interfaces are just like PT4, especially the HUD Editor tab.
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This is the biggest load of bollocks of all that you have written. The owners of PT and HEM merged their companies a couple of years ago and they are merging the underlying code so that it is easier /cheaper to support.
If there ever is a pt5 it is highly likely to have the same underlying code but with potentially a different graphical interface to appease their current customers. Hem3 current HUD designer is a straightplug in of PT4s and is a complete dogs dinner compared to HEM2's hud designer. The danger is that hem3/pt5 will be bodge jobs merging current code from each trackerand will annoy their current userbase and with the number of new cheaper trackers on the market, faced with paying again for botched together software or some of the newer HUDS, people may just switch to the newer HUDs to try them out and never return.
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